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#2977 reviewing defect

Search is not using translations (no localized search possible)

Reported by: agilelogix Owned by: gibrown
Milestone: Plugin Directory v3.0 Priority: high
Component: Plugin Directory Keywords: dev-feedback needs-patch
Cc:

Description

I want to report some ranking issue in locales of the English version, the plugin directory ranking change in locales (en-gb, en-ca, en-au), all the languages are almost same as they are English but the ranking is not same. Please have a look at this problem.

Example:

https://wordpress.org/plugins/search/Store+Locator/
https://en-gb.wordpress.org/plugins/search/Store+Locator/

Both the searches are same but results are different in locales, I don't understand this, as both languages are in English.

Thank you

Change History (20)

#1 @SergeyBiryukov
5 months ago

  • Component changed from General to Plugin Directory

#2 in reply to: ↑ description @SergeyBiryukov
5 months ago

Replying to agilelogix:

Both the searches are same but results are different in locales, I don't understand this, as both languages are in English.

en_US and en_GB are different locales though.

Looks like there are 153 waiting strings for Agile Store Locator's readme in en_GB. Once those strings are approved by the en_GB team, I guess the plugin should rank higher for that locale.

#3 @agilelogix
5 months ago

Hi @SergeyBiryukov 100% approved for en-ca, but the result is same.

https://en-ca.wordpress.org/plugins/search/store+locator/

Please check this.

Thanks

#4 @agilelogix
4 months ago

  • Priority changed from normal to high

#5 @zodiac1978
2 months ago

I was wondering about this search issue as well.
The ranking is totally different between international and local (e.g. German) directories.

For example the plugin “Advanced Ads” is not on the first page here:
https://de.wordpress.org/plugins/search/adsense/
but here on 5th place:
https://wordpress.org/plugins/search/adsense/

Although it is the only one with a German translation, which is contrary to the the assumption from @SergeyBiryukov that this should have a positive effect.

If I search for translated text from the readme it doesn’t find the plugin at all:
https://de.wordpress.org/plugins/search/anzeigentypen/
or
https://de.wordpress.org/plugins/search/anzeigen/

Seems to be a bigger problem with non-US directories and ranking in general.

#6 @zubairharoon
2 months ago

Yes, indeed there is a problem in locale directory searching, the algorithm is not working properly for locale searching, we have to wait for someone to take it and fix it.

#7 @SergeyBiryukov
2 months ago

We've noticed a similar issue in Russian directory a while ago: https://wordpress.org/plugins/search/reviews/ and https://ru.wordpress.org/plugins/search/reviews/ return different results.

I assumed it was due to translations being one of the ranking factors, but none of the first few plugins have a Russian translation, so I'm not sure what else affects the results on localized directories.

#8 follow-up: @ocean90
2 months ago

Related: #1496, #2812

Afaik there is still nothing that fills the search index with new translations.

This ticket was mentioned in Slack in #meta-i18n by sergey. View the logs.


2 months ago

#11 in reply to: ↑ 8 @zodiac1978
6 weeks ago

Replying to ocean90:

Afaik there is still nothing that fills the search index with new translations.

What does that actual mean? And if this is the reason, who can fix this? I read the backlogs from the slack meetings the last times, but this (high priority!) ticket doesn't get mentioned at all.

Is there a roadmap when this Plugin Directoty v3 issues get tackled (or should get tackled)? Maybe @tellyworth can clarify this a bit?

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6 weeks ago

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3 weeks ago

#14 @afercia
3 weeks ago

Following today's conversation on Slack and just to add one more example: searching for "Yoast" on the default locale, "Yoast SEO" is the first result:
https://wordpress.org/plugins/search/yoast/

Same search with the Italian locale, "Yoast SEO" is in the 5th page:
https://it.wordpress.org/plugins/search/yoast/
https://it.wordpress.org/plugins/search/yoast/page/5/

Instead, the first result in the first page is "ACF Content Analysis for Yoast SEO" and seems to me it's not translated in Italian.

#15 @ocean90
3 weeks ago

  • Keywords dev-feedback added
  • Owner set to gibrown
  • Status changed from new to reviewing

@gibrown Can you review please?

#16 @gibrown
3 weeks ago

Ya, the issue here is that the translations are not getting properly synced, so for some reason Yoast does not have any translations, and so it is getting ranked much lower.

I think @tellyworth was looking into this problem, but I am not sure where it is at.

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3 weeks ago

#18 @zodiac1978
2 weeks ago

  • Keywords needs-patch added
  • Summary changed from wordpress.org and locale such as en-gb, en-ca and en-au ranking doesn't match to Search is not using translations (no localized search possible)

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2 weeks ago

#20 @tellyworth
13 days ago

This should be partially improved in [6197] - in that revision all en_* locales should produce identical results.

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