Track the review activities of (CL)PTE/GTE better

[NekoJonez]

Today in the polyglots meeting, we talked about: ​https://github.com/WordPress/five-for-the-future/issues/196

In the changes of this ticket, now on translation editor profiles (=CLPTE/PTE & GTE's) we get a line where it says "Reviewed x strings on translate.wp.org"

But, I have this thought. Apart from looking at the strings themselves, there is no real way to see the actions of the translation editor. What I mean here is, it's almost like the work of checking & accepting strings is never really credited, apart from now showing one line in your profile that bundles everything of that day.

I'm opening this ticket to open a discussion about this thought.

Is it needed to show if a translation editor accepted strings on their profile?
Is accepting strings also a form of "contributing"?
Should it show in different ways if the translation editor changed/added a string?

EG: "Contributed string(s) to these projects: " & "Reviewed string(s) to these projects: "

I think that the work our editors do should be more credited then the projects where they actually changed/contributed enough strings for it to show up on the profile.

What do you all think?

[psmits1567]

I myself are not that interested in all those lines. I would rather see totals of the activities during this year, and in totals
E.g.
Total suggested
Total translated
Total reviewed
Total rejected

[fierevere]

as GTE/LM i would like to see project names where PTE (with wildcard permissions) has contributed in any way.
Its a feature i'm waiting for years.

Just displaying totals is not helping much to see what someone been doing.

[NekoJonez]

Replying to fierevere:

as GTE/LM i would like to see project names where PTE (with wildcard permissions) has contributed in any way.
Its a feature i'm waiting for years.

Just displaying totals is not helping much to see what someone been doing.

Same, currently we can only see when at least three strings are edited. And then again, we need to search in a whole long list of other contributions.

[iandunn]

Do you think it'd be helpful if GlotPress had a page where you could see a user's activity, and then we linked to that in the profile message? Something like

Reviewed <a href="https://translate.wordpress.org/{username}/activity/?date=2022-07-23">27 strings</a> on Translate WordPress

That might be simpler and more flexible than trying to fit all of the information across locales/projects into the message on Profiles. It might also be handy for other purposes?

[NekoJonez]

Replying to iandunn:

Do you think it'd be helpful if GlotPress had a page where you could see a user's activity, and then we linked to that in the profile message? Something like

Reviewed <a href="https://translate.wordpress.org/{username}/activity/?date=2022-07-23">27 strings</a> on Translate WordPress

That might be simpler and more flexible than trying to fit all of the information across locales/projects into the message on Profiles. It might also be handy for other purposes?

Why would we place that on a different page on GlotPress? I'd love it to see it as a sort of tab on the profile. To keep all the activity of an user in one place.

I mean, for almost every contribution for e.g. core... it shows up on the profile but for translation activity we would move to another page? That doesn't make too much sense in my opinion, unless it's for technical/optimization reasons of course.

But I can totally understand what you mean. A sort of history would be neat to have too.

[NekoJonez]

Replying to psmits1567:

I myself are not that interested in all those lines. I would rather see totals of the activities during this year, and in totals
E.g.
Total suggested
Total translated
Total reviewed
Total rejected

I personally don't really see the added value of yearly stats apart from it being something "nice to know".
True, you can argue that somebody with 70%+ rejected translations shouldn't be on the platform but that's an argument that goes the other way too... You could ask yourself if the PTE/GTE feedback isn't good enough.
But, I think discussing about that might be going out of the scope of this ticket a bit...? Maybe?

[psmits1567]

I think what iandunn suggested is not that bad. On this page you should be able to select the translator. Now there is no link at all, you need to lookup the translator profile to see what he/she has worked on

[NekoJonez]

Replying to psmits1567:

I think what iandunn suggested is not that bad. On this page you should be able to select the translator. Now there is no link at all, you need to lookup the translator profile to see what he/she has worked on

+1! Yup, it's a sort of echo of what @fierevere also said.
And to avoid it taking ages for very active translators like you and I, Peter... we could have a sort of filter per year/month that only loads when you click on that month/year?

[psmits1567]

Replying to NekoJonez:

Replying to psmits1567:

I myself are not that interested in all those lines. I would rather see totals of the activities during this year, and in totals
E.g.
Total suggested
Total translated
Total reviewed
Total rejected

I personally don't really see the added value of yearly stats apart from it being something "nice to know".
True, you can argue that somebody with 70%+ rejected translations shouldn't be on the platform but that's an argument that goes the other way too... You could ask yourself if the PTE/GTE feedback isn't good enough.
But, I think discussing about that might be going out of the scope of this ticket a bit...? Maybe?

The current list is not showing in which project somebody has been working on, that for me is not interesting. To improve that, the projects worked on would be more of interest

[psmits1567]

Replying to NekoJonez:

Replying to psmits1567:

I think what iandunn suggested is not that bad. On this page you should be able to select the translator. Now there is no link at all, you need to lookup the translator profile to see what he/she has worked on

+1! Yup, it's a sort of echo of what @fierevere also said.
And to avoid it taking ages for very active translators like you and I, Peter... we could have a sort of filter per year/month that only loads when you click on that month/year?

Limiting the results would indeed help making the list not to long

[NekoJonez]

Replying to psmits1567:

Replying to NekoJonez:

Replying to psmits1567:

I myself are not that interested in all those lines. I would rather see totals of the activities during this year, and in totals
E.g.
Total suggested
Total translated
Total reviewed
Total rejected

I personally don't really see the added value of yearly stats apart from it being something "nice to know".
True, you can argue that somebody with 70%+ rejected translations shouldn't be on the platform but that's an argument that goes the other way too... You could ask yourself if the PTE/GTE feedback isn't good enough.
But, I think discussing about that might be going out of the scope of this ticket a bit...? Maybe?

The current list is not showing in which project somebody has been working on, that for me is not interesting. To improve that, the projects worked on would be more of interest

True. But, I think you might better comment that on the linked Github issue from the original post since that's more related to that compared to this ticket.
But, I do agree that only these "translated X strings" is not enough info. I personally would love to see in which locale at first. But, let's talk about those lines in the github issue. To keep tracking that in that ticket... Or am I seeing that wrong @psmits1567 @iandunn

[iandunn]

Replying to NekoJonez:

I mean, for almost every contribution for e.g. core... it shows up on the profile but for translation activity we would move to another page?

I was thinking it'd be consistent with other activity, and would allow more flexibility.

Most of the current activity on Profiles is a summary of what happened, and then it links to where the full activity can be seen. For example, if you publish a post on a Make site, your profile will show an excerpt of it, but link to the post itself if someone wants to read the whole thing.

There isn't a single activity to link to here, though, and there's so much activity that it could be easier to consume on a full page with interactive filters, etc, rather than trying to squeeze it all into a single sentence.

I don't feel strongly, though.