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Opened 6 months ago

Last modified 4 months ago

#4535 accepted enhancement

Delete "Hello World" posts (and tidy up empty blogs)

Reported by: jonoaldersonwp Owned by: ocean90
Milestone: Priority: normal
Component: International Sites (Rosetta) Keywords: seo
Cc:

Description

Various Rosetta sites have a blog with a "Hello World" post. These should be deleted.
Because of the incorrect hreflang setup on these sites, these posts cause an absolute SEO nightmare as Google seeks out their (non-existent) siblings across the whole network.

E.g.,
https://tg.wordpress.org/2012/08/23/hello-world/
https://tt.wordpress.org/2014/07/08/hello-world/
https://fao.wordpress.org/2016/07/20/hello-world/
https://dzo.wordpress.org/2015/02/24/hello-world/
https://kab.wordpress.org/2015/02/24/hello-world/
https://sa.wordpress.org/2011/07/26/hello-world/
https://hau.wordpress.org/2016/07/15/hello-world/
https://bre.wordpress.org/2015/07/17/hello-world/
https://ak.wordpress.org/2016/03/05/hello-world/
https://es-pr.wordpress.org/2016/03/05/hello-world/
https://rup.wordpress.org/2016/03/05/hello-world/

I don't have an easy way of finding them all from the outside-in - I'm hoping that these should be easy to round up?

It's also worth considering that in many cases, these are the only blog posts on these blogs. E.g., https://dzo.wordpress.org/news/, https://bre.wordpress.org/news/

When that's the case and we're removing them, can we also please:

Change History (6)

#1 @casiepa
6 months ago

Hi @jonoaldersonwp, from my side (technically speaking) I could go in and delete the 'Hello World' pages and that won't break anything.
But for your other requests this would mean that when the team of the locale starts to use it, we would need to undo these changes again, so I'm not in favor of that, but I let others respond to that part.

#2 @jonoaldersonwp
6 months ago

Makes sense, although, they haven't used these at all (since 2011 in some cases), so I don't think that's a burning consideration.

We also need a much better system/process in place before they do actively use them; there's a lot of poorly managed duplication of wordpress.org blog comment when/where they are infrequently used, and that causes a whole raft of other issues.

More significantly, the technical approach to these is shot - the hreflang tags on https://nl.wordpress.org/2019/05/08/wordpress-5-2-is-vrijgegeven/, as just one isolated example, are actively damaging the whole ecosystem.

I'm keen to err on the side of burning down as much of it we can, and making special cases for scenarios where it's needed and managed well...

#3 @ocean90
6 months ago

  • Owner set to ocean90
  • Priority changed from high to normal
  • Status changed from new to accepted
  • Type changed from defect to enhancement

The hreflang tag should probably be removed for posts.

#4 @jonoaldersonwp
6 months ago

Ah, that's a good idea! Doing more harm than good with the current setup. Want a separate ticket?

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